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Hi! My name is Rebecca, and in today's lesson you'll learn how to participate effectively in a discussion in English,
大家好，我是Rebecca，今天我们将学习如何更有效地参与到英语讨论中，
something you may need to do in your personal, professional, or academic life, okay?
在个人生活、专业场合或是学术场合中都可能会有讨论。
Now, the topic we'll use as our sample is this one: Is it better to study online or in a regular classroom? Okay?
那么今天我们讨论的话题是：在线学习好还是常规课堂好？
You'll have a chance to hear a discussion by native English speakers on this topic.
你将有机会听英语母语人士对这个话题展开谈论。
What I'd like you to do is listen for any special expressions and phrases that they use during the discussion.
你需要做的就是在他们讨论的过程中，仔细听他们用到的特殊表达和短语。
Afterwards, I'll review the expressions and phrases with you, okay?
随后，我也将带你们一起回顾其中的一些表达，好么？
Now, today I have some special friends who have agreed to help me with this lesson, and they're waiting in the classroom next door, so let's go and say hello to them.
今天我邀请到了一些朋友来帮忙，他们在另一间房里，让我们过去和他们打个招呼吧。
-- Hello! -- Hello! -- Hi! -- Hi!
——你们好！ ——你好！
-- Well, look who's here. It's -- Ronnie. -- Alex. -- James. -- Adam.
——介绍一下，这是——罗妮。——亚历克斯。——詹姆斯。——亚当。
-- Thank you for joining me, and thanks for helping with this lesson, guys. -- No problem. -- No problem.
——谢谢各位来帮忙。 ——小事。
-- So you know we're talking about discussions, and the topic is: Is it better to study online or in a regular classroom? Okay, who wants to go first?
——那么大家都知道我们今天讨论的话题了么，今天的话题是：在线学习好还是常规课堂好？那么，谁先来呢？
-- Okay, so I'll start, and I think that it's actually very good to study online because it's very convenient because you can study whenever you want and at your own pace.
——我先来吧，我认为在线学习非常好，因为这样很方便。无论什么时候学习都可以，完全是按照自己的节奏来。
For example, someone like me, I like to study at nighttime. So for me, online works better because it's quiet at night, no one disturbs me, and I can do what I need to do.
比如我，我喜欢在晚上学习。所以对于我来说，在线学习更好，因为晚上非常安静，没人打扰，我可以做自己要做的事。
-- Okay, that's true, but if you're going to study online...
——好吧，确实如此，但是如果你要在线学的话...
-- Sorry, but...
——抱歉，但是...
-- Please let me finish. Let me finish. As I was saying, that's true, but if you're studying online you do need to motivate yourself,
——请让我先说完好么。让我说完。正如我所说到，确实是这样，但是如果你在线学习的话，你还需要激励自己，
so I think it's better to be in a classroom where you have other students and a teacher who can motivate you.
所以我认为在课堂学习更好，在课堂上还有其他同学和一名老师，他们能够共同激励你。
-- That's true, but some people can't afford to go to a classroom and don't have enough money or resources to actually go to a big school.
——确实如此，但是一些人可能供不起，他们没钱或是没资源去到一所真正好的学校学习。
So studying online, you can actually do it for free.
所以在线学习的话，你可以免费接触到这些资源。
-- Me? Well, I would like to add -- May I say something? -- Sure.
——到我了么？好吧，我想说——我可以说么？——当然。
-- Soft skills. That's not usually talked about in schools, but when we talk about soft skills, it's actual interaction, utilizing your English when you're with other people,
——软技能。通常不会再学校里谈论这个，但是当我们说起软技能的时候，事实上就是互动，当你在和他人在一起时，利用你的英语进行交流，
and that's hard to get online because you're watching a screen and not actually interacting with other people.
这一点很难通过在线学习获得，因为你只是对着屏幕，没有真正和他人交流互动。
-- You make a very good point but I would also like to add that sometimes having classmates
——你这一点说得很好，但我还想说有时候
takes you away from your focus as you have to maybe review things many times for other people to catch up,
同班同学可能会消磨你的专注力，当你要重复的复习已经学过的东西时，
or you have to do topics that are interesting to other people, not to yourself. So it's a little distracting sometimes, too.
或者是在课堂上，你可能会做一些别人喜欢可是你自己却不感兴趣的话题，这样也会有点让人分心。
-- However, focus is a good thing. I mean, it's not a bad thing to repeat something because sometimes people don't catch the material the first time.
——不管怎么说，专注力都是好的。我是指，重复并不是坏事。因为大家在初次学习时，可能并没有完全掌握。
So that way, you go over the material, and they -- you know, you get depth.
这样的话，你就要反复复习，这样才能深入学习。
So you get to learn more, and people who don't understand get the opportunity to ask questions and learn from it again.
所以，你会学的更多，那些没有搞明白的人也能有机会再提问再学习。
-- Yeah, but sometimes the resources that you get in a classroom are boring, and online you can just look up whatever you need on the Internet, and you've got it right there.
——没错，但有时你在课堂获得的资源很无聊，而在网上你可以找你需要的资源。
You don't have to rely on a textbook. Sometimes it can be a bad textbook.
你没有必要依赖课本，有时课本资源也不一定好。
-- Okay. Don't get me wrong. I mean, there are good resources on the Internet, like www.engvid.com.
——不要误解。我是说，网上也有好的资源，比如www.engvid.com.
-- I'm sorry, did you say www.engvid.com?
——不好意思，你刚刚说 www.engvid.com？
-- I did say www.engvid.com.
——我确实说了www.engvid.com
-- I've heard of www.engvid.com.
——我听过这个网站。
-- I think I have too. -- Me too.
——我好像也听过。 ——我也听过。
-- Anyway. It's a good website.
——这是个不错的网站。
-- So as I was saying, don't get me wrong, I think there are excellent resources online.
——如我所言，不要会错我的意思，我认为网上也很多非常棒的资源。
However, some students who are just learning English for the first time might not know how to judge the quality of the resources.
只是一些英语初学者无法判断资源的好坏。
So I think if you go to a school, if you're inside a classroom, you're with a teacher who is trained, is a professional, who can give you the resources you need to improve your English.
因此，我认为如果你去学校的话，在教室里，跟着一位专业老师学习的话，老师能给你资源帮助你提高英语。
-- Well, it's a good thing you said about professional teachers because at www.engvid.com
——好吧，你提到专业老师，因为在www.engvid.com
-- www.engvid.com? -- www.engvid.com. -- www.engvid.com. -- Yeah, EngVid.
——www.engvid.com？——www.engvid.com. ——www.engvid.com ——对，是EngVid
-- We have professional teachers ready to teach you. So in conclusion, in a nutshell, can we just, kind of, sum up and say that studying online or in a classroom will help everyone.
——我们的老师非常专业。所以最后，简单来说，我们可以总结——网上学习或课堂学习都能帮助大家。
-- Sure. -- I think so. -- I can agree with that.
——没错。——我也这么认为。——我同意。
-- Okay. All right. Thank you very much for your help guys. -- No problem.
——谢谢各位的帮忙。——不客气。
