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Second case he gives me, one of his detainees, and these are all Muslims, er a man who was known to
他说的第二个案例，是他的一位关押犯他们全是穆斯林，其中一个人
have had some affairs, and he kept turning the screw on the guy, digging it in, digging it in.
有些情报，他就一直把螺丝钉钻在那个人身上
He felt really badly about it.
他对此感觉很槽糕
Again because rapport building was what it was about but pretence leads to authenticity
因为关系建立就是这样，但是假装变成了真情实感
and there was a sense that he cared about the people that he was interrogating.
让人感觉他关心这些人虽然他正在审讯他们
Third case which I found the most fascinating
第三个案例我觉得最有意思
the young woman started to fall in love with him
一个年轻的女人爱上了他
so this interrogator is adorable, very you know big eyes,
这个审讯者很迷人大大的眼睛
I could see how he would be a very good interrogator easy to trust, easy to believe in, in a certain sense,
我可以看出来，他会是很好的审讯员很容易获得信任，让人相信他，在某种意义上说
and she started putting her hand on his leg, she asked for the New Testament
她开始把手放到他的腿上她要求《新约》
she wanted to learn about his tradition' He tried to defuse the situation
因为她想学习他的传统他努力想化解这种情况
by bringing in er an interpreter who could who would be a woman interpreter
他带来了一个翻译员一个女议员
who would be present he himself speaks Arabic,
在场他自己回说阿拉伯语
and didn't need the interpreter and she started, the detainee started mocking the interpreter,
不需要有人翻译这个关押人员开始嘲笑这位议员
"her Arabic is much worse than yours",
她的阿拉伯语比你差远了
he set up a triangle er a love triangle of sorts, and she got very, very angry
他建立其某种三角爱情这让她非常非常生气
and now I'm not sure if he felt he was squandering his chance for building the rapport,
现在我不确定他是否觉得自己是在浪费机会建立关系
so it was a utility issue for him, I don't think that was it.
这对他来说是个效用问题我却不这么认为
He felt he had developed a rapport with this woman and he had to do what interrogators do, exploit the rapport.
他认为自己已经和这个女士建立了关系他必须要像其他审讯员一样利用这个关系
