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We thought in the medical profession that the only way you can lose weight, if your BMI over 35, was to have weight loss surgery
原来医学界认为要想减肥，BMI超过35的人必须接受减肥手术
That really is like what the medical profession was teaching
这是医学专业总在教授的
And they put folks on a diet that wasn't that different than the foods I'm talking about
这篇研究让重度肥胖者通过饮食同我之前讲的那些食物很类似
and had them exercise moderately everyday the way that Ellen Hughes proposed
以及每天适量锻炼，也就是埃伦·休斯建议的那样
And they all lost weight and did very well, Now with the exercise, with the diet
结果患者减肥很成功，锻炼和饮食
I can tell you, it's the combination of these things
两者的结合是很重要的
But in all these cultures, they don't exercise the way we do
所有传统地方，锻炼都不像美国
They're not like obsessive and going to the gym and you know trying to prepare for a marathon one month and then doing nothing the next
美国人都是等到长跑前，才突击训练一下，之后又什么都不做了
That's what people in the US do, we go to one extreme from the other
这是从一个极端到另一个极端
They just move their bodies every day
而传统文化强调天天运动
Even in the kitchen, they're burning calories, You saw that metate.
在厨房做饭，他们都会消耗能量。比如磨
You spend 20 minutes with that thing
你要花20分钟去磨
And you probably burn 200 calories or more, so you know
这会消耗200卡路里或更多
That really is just much more a part of the culture
这已经成为了文化的一部分
The other thing is, you'll notice these folks from Crete and even the folks from Japan they don't look like the front cover of AARP elderly
再看，这些克里特人，甚至日本人，不像退休者协会宣传画报中的那些老年人
you know, they're not like these cachectic, you know perfectly Dooney and Bourke looking folks
身体瘦弱，却穿着体面
Some of them actually have a little bit of layers on them and that was really interesting for me too
他们有些人甚至有一些微胖，这同样让我觉得有趣
but they're really healthy; they move around; they eat well
不过他们很健康，四处走动，胃口好
