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So I feel like there's been a lot of confusion, and I wish that people would take a step back
因此我想会有很多困惑，
and actually look at the facts before they rushed to some conclusion about where they are on immigration
但是我希望人们能在鲁莽地做出决定去哪里移民前退一步，看清事情的真相。
I know it's a very emotional issue.
我知道这是个十分情绪化的问题。
But I guess for once, although we're very much in general about keeping emotion alive,
但我猜尽管我们在保持情感活力一般，
but I do think that in this instance it would be nice if people relied on their reason as well as their emotion.
但我认为在这个距离，如果人们依靠他们的理由，也依靠他们的情感，这就太棒了。
Jim Carroll: Ladies and Gentlemen, comments, questions? I'm not sure exactly what our plan is.
吉姆:女士们，先生们，意见或问题?我不确定我们的计划如何。
Do we have a microphone that's available to people?
我们有给观众的麦克风吗?
Or should you just stand up and speak in a good loud voice? Questions?
或者你站着，用高音炮?有问题吗?
Guest: I'll just start it by saying, I'm ashamed of this country.
客人:就从我开始吧，我为这个国家羞愧。
I'm ashamed of this attitude against immigration. I mean where do the people who're against it think they came from?
我为阻挡移民的这种态度而羞愧。我的意思是。那些反对移民的人自认为他们是从哪里来的呢?
Jim Carroll: And I'm going to either repeat your question or your comments in parts, or I'd also invite you to stand.
吉姆:我重复一下你的问题或部分的评论，我也请你面对。
Guest: Oh, I'd rather die.
客人:哦，我快要窒息了
Jim Carroll: Well, please don't do that.
吉姆:好，请别那么做。
Gish Jen: Everyone could hear her.
任碧莲:每个人都能听到她说的。
Jim Carroll: This woman is front is saying that she is ashamed of her country in the way this conversation is going. Go ahead.
吉姆:这位女士之前说她为她的国家感到羞耻，继续！
Guest: The anti-immigration attitude amazes me.
客人:抵抗移民的态度使我震惊
The people who're against immigrants, where do they come from in the first place?
人们抵抗外来者，难道他们就是土生土长的吗?
Who was, oh god, now I'm disorganized. I mean, who wasn't born somewhere else way, way, way back?
谁是，我的天呐，现在混乱了，我的意思是，追根溯源到人们的祖先
It just baffles me. I live in France half the time,
任何人不都是在其他地方出生的吗?这使我困惑。
and they have their problems but they don't understand the people of Arizona there.
我一半的时间生活在法国，他们有他们的问题，但他们不理解亚利桑那的人们。
I can't explain it. I can't be an ambassador for this country as long as this horrible dialogue is going on.
我说不清楚。只要这个可怕的对话继续，我不能成为这个国家的代表。
注：音频有一段提问的内容声音太小无法做字幕就截掉了，文本中有完整的截掉的内容。
